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Anti Seize

Post by Zombie Master » Wed May 03, 2017 11:42 pm

What kind do you you like, and where?

I use copper mostly.
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Re: Anti Seize

Post by Rob » Thu May 04, 2017 1:00 am

I used the silver for years and years. A small jar with a brush should last the average enthusiast most of their life? (Ken is not your average enthusiast!)

I don't think I ever tried copper, although I would be tempted if I needed some.

As I remember, I only used it on the exhaust nut and spark plug threads.

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A highly refined blend of aluminum, copper and graphite lubricants. Use during assembly to prevent galling, corrosion and seizing due to weathering or chemicals. Anti-Seize assures easier disassembly. Temperature range: -60°F to 1600°F (-51°C to 871°C).
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Re: Anti Seize

Post by Zombie Master » Thu May 04, 2017 2:32 am

Isn't using Aluminum Anti Seize on Aluminum a problem?
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Re: Anti Seize

Post by Rob » Thu May 04, 2017 3:00 am

I think that is why folks were switching to copper based.

I never had to cut an exhaust nut, except for maybe a used engine new to me. I removed them annually and bathed them and renewed their anti seize.

The only time I had trouble with a spark plug was in the early days when the bike was under warranty and still being serviced by the dealer. I seem to recall it needing a helicoil early on, on the original engine.

Once again, I pulled my spark plugs often enough that they were kept clean and fresh, as well.

Lousy at keeping oil stains and road grime off the bike, though.
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Re: Anti Seize

Post by Rob » Thu May 04, 2017 3:11 am

You are right! This is the one!
And the perfect dielectric grease!

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A premium quality copper anti-seize and thread lubricant that may be used to prevent seizing, corrosion and galling where high temperature conditions exist. Contains a high percentage of micro-fine copper flakes in a semi-synthetic grease carrier and is fortified with high quality rust and corrosion inhibitors. Temperature range: -30°F to 1800°F (-34°C to 982°C). Provides good electrical conductivity.
https://www.permatex.com/products/lubri ... lubricant/
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Re: Anti Seize

Post by dougie » Thu May 04, 2017 9:23 am

Before all the scientific/chemical arguments start, I have used both without a problem. One time I couldn't find it in my messy shop so I used Moly60, also no problem.
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Re: Anti Seize

Post by SteveD » Thu May 04, 2017 9:29 am

I have a tube of the aluminium stuff.
I use it on the exhaust nuts and on the header pipe where the muffler slips over it. Just a smear.
I can't recall a problem but I do tend to remove the exhaust every 10Kkm when I do an oil filter change. Everything gets a clean and fresh application then.
I'll get the copper version next. My current tube is almost empty.
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Re: Anti Seize

Post by Kurt in S.A. » Thu May 04, 2017 9:38 am

Snowbum indicates that the permatex products tend to have copper in them, although they might be masked by other elements. Specs would show that. He says that his favorite is Never-Seez, Pure Nickel rated to 2600 degrees. BMW recommended Never-Seez in a 1989 service bulletin.

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Re: Anti Seize

Post by SteveD » Thu May 04, 2017 9:59 am

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Re: Anti Seize

Post by Gibson » Fri May 12, 2017 7:23 am

I've been using the Permatex copper one in a tube. I always put lots on the exhaust nuts, Super Trapp hardware for the disks and all the clamp threads on exhaust system. Had it for years and never a problem. Why is copper bad?

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