Oh the horror!

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Major Softie
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Garnet wrote:
justoneoftheguys wrote:
I don't know how I could get mine off for you. I haven't the tools, nor a welder.
Just ship him the whole box, there is nothin good left inside anyway. :P
Kinda expensive shipping for just a flange though :shock:
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Garnet wrote:
justoneoftheguys wrote:
I don't know how I could get mine off for you. I haven't the tools, nor a welder.
Just ship him the whole box, there is nothin good left inside anyway. :P
I had this fantasy about shipping it to a mate in the U.K., so they could do the Motobins core exchange for a freshly rebuilt box for $500... (It is a U.K.-only offer)
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justoneoftheguys wrote:I would HATE having to remember which of the 4 holes used the queer fastener.

I like the idea of replacing the flange.

I don't know how I could get mine off for you. I haven't the tools, nor a welder.
How about.....

1. Bbelt buys an output flange tool (http://www.cycleworks.net/index.php?mai ... cts_id=321) and has it shipped directly to Rob.

2. Rob removes the flange and sends it with the tool to bbelk...$$$?

3. Now bbelk has the tool to remove his....and the replacement flange in hand :D

4. bbelk sells the tool....or keeps it.

What do you think?
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I think that would be a well traveled tool. :D
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Frog wrote: How about.....

1. Bbelt buys an output flange tool (http://www.cycleworks.net/index.php?mai ... cts_id=321) and has it shipped directly to Rob.

2. Rob removes the flange and sends it with the tool to bbelk...$$$?

3. Now bbelk has the tool to remove his....and the replacement flange in hand :D

4. bbelk sells the tool....or keeps it.

What do you think?
It works for me. It just occurred to me that the $500USD price Motobins offers excludes VAT. And since they don't offer the deal outside the U.K., I would have to pay the VAT... :(

Like I said - fantasy.
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moore84rs
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I think the reason for replacing the bolts every time is that the bolts
are interference fit. Meaning, the threads are slightly oversize
and bind (self-lock).
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vanzen
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If clearance for a larger screw is an issue,
and I suspect that this may be the case -
I'd then consider a threaded insert ...
but I have an install kit
which would be about the $75 price ticket of a new flange if you had to buy it.

I'll reconsider and go with frog on this one – look for a good used flange.
Send the send trashed one to me.
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moore84rs wrote:I think the reason for replacing the bolts every time is that the bolts
are interference fit. Meaning, the threads are slightly oversize
and bind (self-lock).
I only replace the bolts once in a while, but even new bolts turn in by hand. Perhaps all my flanges have been a bit worn. :?
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moore84rs wrote:I think the reason for replacing the bolts every time is that the bolts
are interference fit. Meaning, the threads are slightly oversize
and bind (self-lock).
Actually I think they are "stretch" bolts like the flywheel bolts.
The proper torque stretches them and that helps keep them in place.
I've spent most of my money on women, motorcycles, and beer.
The rest of it I just wasted.
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vanzen
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moore84rs wrote:I think the reason for replacing the bolts every time is that the bolts
are interference fit. Meaning, the threads are slightly oversize
and bind (self-lock).
I had always thought that these screws are designed to stretch slightly when properly torqued –
Once installed and stretched, then removed they are theoretically junk
because they do not return to original size,
and further stretching to torque ultimately weakens the fastener.
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