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Re: Lost my Idle

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:42 pm
by ME 109
Screw loose huh?

Re: Lost my Idle

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:51 pm
by Steve in Golden
bbelk wrote:
Duane Ausherman wrote:I would also check for retarded ignition timing.
Bam! - he nailed it.

The bean can had rotated all the way to one extreme. Its too bright outside for me to see my strobe light, but I centered the can up and it started right up. I will complete the job when the sun goes down.
Duane, you were not being PC. I believe the term you should have used was, "advance-challenged ignition timing".

Re: Lost my Idle

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:22 pm
by bbelk
ME 109 wrote:Screw loose huh?
I could see the marks where the can had rotated, but I checked for "looseness" and it really wasn't. I have no idea why it retarded itself, but it did.

Re: Lost my Idle

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:27 pm
by bbelk
I hate points. Especially the ones that are located between red hot exhaust tubes. I didn't used to hate them, back when everything had them and I was pretty handy with my dwell meter, which I have never figured out how to use on the Airheads.

I really like maintenance free. Which is not a very airhead sort of thing. I have an Omega ignition on my R90 and it has been flawless, but I don't think they are available. I know Randy just went through this, so I should go find his thread, but I am too lazy. Whats the best magic ignition for a 79 R65.

Re: Lost my Idle

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:21 pm
by dwerbil
I always set points not by dwell but by timing marks. When real close with static timing, then on goes the timing light. (you know all this Brad). If timing is off a bit then I'd retard or advance the point setting.

About ten days before Ken's rally, I thought what the hell, and just to try out the damn thing, I ordered and installed a Dyna III on the /7. I took my time on the install using electro grease on connnections and heat-shrinking where needed. Simple Simon type deal here. Install took a couple of hours. Timing the thing was a snap. Since then, including the trip to Ken's and back and then some, the bike hasn't skipped a beat. Don Roberts commented it probably starts like a Jap bike now. (Yes it does.) And even though the old bike has now lost a fair amount of its personality, I'll forego that for more ignition dependability and longevity. The bike feels much better at 70mph with throttle response than it has for some time. And it's consistent. Bosch blue coils help too along with tame Bings and everything else in proper working order.

Lastly, I do have the entire OEM points/condenser apparatus neatly tucked into the fairing for justincase.

Re: Lost my Idle

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:26 pm
by Ken in Oklahoma
bbelk wrote:
Duane Ausherman wrote:I would also check for retarded ignition timing.
Bam! - he nailed it.

The bean can had rotated all the way to one extreme. Its too bright outside for me to see my strobe light, but I centered the can up and it started right up. I will complete the job when the sun goes down.

Damn! Retarded timing is what I was going to say before I got distracted and lost my train of thought. At least I think I was going to say that, but the distraction made loose my train of thought. Uh, I'm repeating myself, aren't I? Still, I'm pretty sure retarded timing would have been ritht up there near the top of the list.

Sigh! It ain't easy being Ken in Oklahoma

Re: Lost my Idle

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:48 pm
by bbelk
Ken in Oklahoma wrote:
Sigh! It ain't easy being Ken in Oklahoma
I had some very important questions about ignitions - but I got completely sidetracked by this. Here is a screen shot of Ken's last post.

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But when you hit "quote" you get:

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I need some Twilight Zone Music here.

Re: Lost my Idle

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:11 pm
by Ken in Oklahoma
bbelk wrote:. . . I need some Twilight Zone Music here.

Nah! Not Twilight Zone. Being a moderator lets me edit my post unlimited times. The changes that are puzzling you are the result of excessive cleverness on my part. That means I was able to come up with a more clever post than I started out with. Simply, the last version I thought more clever than the first--and I had already punched the "submit" button.

What I should have done is to make a note that I had edited my post.

Just in case anybody is wondering, I have never modified any post other than one of my own. If a post were unsuitable, such as a gross violation of the rules of the forum, then I might delete it. My plan, should such a questionable issue ever come up would be to send a PM to the other moderators to get their take on the post first.



Ken