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Re: High speed wobble

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:40 pm
by Rob
2valve wrote: Not a problem Rob , but have no idea how to load it on this site could you flick am a email and i'll send it to you ?
Email sent. Now, I suggest you edit your post and remove your easily spam-botted email address.

Re: High speed wobble

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:57 pm
by 2valve
On its way Rob.

Re: High speed wobble

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:52 pm
by Ken in Oklahoma
bbelk wrote:My 1975 R90/6 has developed a wobble. It presents itself somewhere above 75 MPH. It is not consistent and responds to road surface and wind. It is not violent, it is just a couple inches of full body wobble and its damn scary.

Tires are new. . . .
Brad, did you have the new front tire before the wobble developed? I'm always suspicious of front tires (especially)

Ken

Re: High speed wobble

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:01 pm
by 2valve
Rob wrote: Now, I suggest you edit your post and remove your easily spam-botted email address.
Hi Rob, Have done that already ;)

Re: High speed wobble

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:33 pm
by bbelk
2valve wrote:My vote goes to the steering head bearings.
I am betting on this too.
Rob wrote:I don't remember having any side-to-side play that could be felt. If the play is fore/aft, I don't see how that would be a good thing.
Do you have the shocks detached for these measurements?
It was side to side and it adjusted out. I did not remove the shocks or even the wheel. I just pushed and shoved on things looking for play. After the adjustment, there was none.
Ken in Oklahoma wrote:did you have the new front tire before the wobble developed? I'm always suspicious of front tires (especially)
Ken
This was the first trip on the new tire. I didn't do any long trips on this bike in 2014 and I don't get to go 80 around town much and I don't usually have my bags all packed either so I really don't know if the problem was there before the new tire or not.

I guess I am going to have to load up my bags and go for a ride far enough out of town to see if the swing arm adjustment did anything. I will probably do something about the head bearings in any case, so if I don't get a test run before then, I may not know what fixes the problem.

Re: High speed wobble

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 3:52 pm
by bbelk
The steering has a slight notch in it and it is slightly stiff. I will replace those barings.

I just watched a video on how to do it and it does not look like much fun.

Does anybody recommend that I try this myself. I don't own any of the special tools or a mig welder.

Re: High speed wobble

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:06 pm
by Bamboo812
I'd order the Cycle Works tool for removing the races, then sell it here or on the IBMWR. http://www.cycleworks.net/index.php?mai ... ucts_id=64

Re: High speed wobble

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:51 pm
by bbelk
The guy in the how-to movie had two different varieties of tool, neither of which worked. He used a Mig Welder, a torch, and a great deal of percussive engineering with a air chisel. A scary looking operation that is somewhat of a commitment since the bike can't be moved once it has started. The whole job cost about $400 including parts on my R65 so I think I have my answer.

I have pulled the fairing off and will take it to the local Airhead guy when it quits raining.

Re: High speed wobble

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:17 pm
by Rob
I replaced mine on my R65, Brad.
If I can do it, anyone can.
The lower race, I cut out with a Dremel. The upper race I pulled. I don't remember what kind of tool I used. A regular (cheap) puller? Too long ago.

I did buy Cycle Works swingarm bearing race tool. Works a treat. Cheaper, too. I recommend it.

If you or a friend is handy with welding, the "clean" way to remove the outer races is to run a bead of weld around the inside of the race. When it cools, the race contracts and falls out (so I've heard).

Yes, big project, especially with the fairing.

Re: High speed wobble

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:21 pm
by Duane Ausherman
You don't have to weld it in the sense of adding new material, just a run with a oxy unit will also shrink it down.

That isn't related to the wobble though.