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Re: WHERE DOES THIS PART GO????

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:16 am
by ME 109
PITAPan wrote:
Edit: On a separate note, YOU should never buy these bearings again. I would say that would be asking for trouble---for YOU. The reasoning is kind of...mm..odd. Sorta depends on how religious you are, or how good a physicist. Those two groups have converging views of the nature of reality. Suffice it say that once you are convinced of something it changes the reality you live in. You will find what you expect to find. I'm a pretty hard core empiricist but I've become convinced. Perhaps I wanted to be. Ouroboros.
Why on earth would I buy them again?
I'll mail some to you if you'd like to try them?
If you're able to handle the heat here, you'll find much information based on individuals personal experiences with their motorcycles.

Burritos to you too.

Re: WHERE DOES THIS PART GO????

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 3:10 am
by Deleted User 287
I'm having a really "great" "vacation"...

in case anyone cared......


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Re: WHERE DOES THIS PART GO????

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 3:13 am
by Major Softie
justoneoftheguys wrote:I'm having a really "great" "vacation"...

in case anyone cared......
I am SO sure now.

Re: WHERE DOES THIS PART GO????

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:30 pm
by ME 109
Apologies to ibjman for the derailment of his thread.

Our newest temporary member is not FH.
It is someone from another forum and I know who it is.
For now, I'll respect his privacy and keep his other identity quiet.
If he behaves himself.

Re: WHERE DOES THIS PART GO????

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:44 pm
by Deleted User 62
ME 109 wrote:Apologies to ibjman for the derailment of his thread.

Our newest temporary member is not FH.
It is someone from another forum and I know who it is.
For now, I'll respect his privacy and keep his other identity quiet.
If he behaves himself.
Ah ha! I thought I recognized his style... Where's that ignore button...? :lol:

Re: WHERE DOES THIS PART GO????

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:59 pm
by ME 109
Tim Shepherd wrote: Ah ha! I thought I recognized his style... Where's that ignore button...? :lol:
;)

Re: WHERE DOES THIS PART GO????

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:18 pm
by PITAPan
ME 109 wrote:
PITAPan wrote:
Edit: On a separate note, YOU should never buy these bearings again. I would say that would be asking for trouble---for YOU. The reasoning is kind of...mm..odd. Sorta depends on how religious you are, or how good a physicist. Those two groups have converging views of the nature of reality. Suffice it say that once you are convinced of something it changes the reality you live in. You will find what you expect to find. I'm a pretty hard core empiricist but I've become convinced. Perhaps I wanted to be. Ouroboros.
Why on earth would I buy them again?
I'll mail some to you if you'd like to try them?
If you're able to handle the heat here, you'll find much information based on individuals personal experiences with their motorcycles.

Burritos to you too.
The way you wrench may have you going through them?
You are too kind, I'd take you up on it but it'd be costly. You should buy gas instead.

I seldom doubt anyone's experience, as they describe it. What they make of it? Well, I take most things under advisement...

Doing some investigations on the 16007 C3, another bearing we buy from time to time, lead to some interesting tidbits (aside from the fact that the dealer price is good, if they are the real deal). This from SKF:

"The complete bearing designation, i.e. the basic designation with supplementary designations is always marked on the bearing package, whereas the designation marked on the bearing may sometimes be incomplete, e.g. for manufacturing reasons."

Pasted from <http://www.skf.com/group/products/beari ... index.html>

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I have a very old FAG 30203A here. Made in Portugal.

Search on SKF site for 30203A yields only 30203J2
17 x 40 13.25

Search on FAG site for 30203A

FAG 30203-A (Formerly 30203A)
http://medias.schaeffler.de/medias/en!hp.ec.br/302?#302
17 x 40 x 13.25
The A suffix indicates "modified internal construction"

I can bring either up on CAD if I cared much more and look for variations or notes on the drawings.

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Both sites list the J suffix as denoting a stamped steel cage. This holds for many other types of bearings other than the ball and tapered rollers I was specifically looking at--it is in the designation tables. These guys are following ISO and DIN standards so I expect some consistency. I have to pay $$ to get my hands on the standards themselves so....

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Conclusion: your bearing don't fit, as you observe, but it ain't the J that did it. if they came in boxes, examine the designation on those. When some one asks you where you got them, answer. This may or may not be relevant.

Looking for the 16007 C3 I found them for $11 at Bearings-direct.com, $20 at MAX BMW , $26 on Amazon from Amazon, and $35 at Motion industries. I didn't look at Grainger or MSC.

Re: WHERE DOES THIS PART GO????

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:40 pm
by Major Softie
ME 109 wrote: If he behaves himself.
Too late.

Re: WHERE DOES THIS PART GO????

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:41 pm
by PITAPan
ME 109 wrote:Apologies to ibjman for the derailment of his thread.

Our newest temporary member is not FH.
It is someone from another forum and I know who it is.
For now, I'll respect his privacy and keep his other identity quiet.
If he behaves himself.
OH NO :o ---not to be ouoted!, Horrors....

But as was pointed out, identity is style, not a name. I have many names but this is actually the one I use the most. I couldn't register with it in it's usual format or you would know vastly more about me than you think you do.

If this bunch can't manage greater collective IQ that the ones at the "other" place, you're correct on "temporary".

I stayed up half the night drawing up my brilliant design for some grip heaters, which was tedious. This morning I realize a far simpler way to get the same place, with far less effort. So now I need to draw that, which should take less than a half hour. If you'll excuse me...

Re: WHERE DOES THIS PART GO????

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:02 pm
by Deleted User 287
PITAPan wrote:I couldn't register with it in it's usual format or you would know vastly more about me than you think you do.
Who the fuck cares?