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Re: Norton Commando vs BMW R90S
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 2:46 am
by Zombie Master
Major Softie wrote:Well, you are a hopeless waste of time, but I'll just give you the most painfully obvious one, and then I'm done.
You said "Nortons blow up when pushed hard."
You now have modified it, while claiming you're not, to "they can."
You did not argue with the statement that "BMW's can blow up when pushed hard."
"Nortons blow up when pushed hard" either meant something or it didn't. If it didn't mean they always do, then it means (as you now claim) that they just "can." So can BMW's. So can any bike. So now you're claiming that your sentence meant nothing.
And, that was pretty much what I was saying in the first place.
Well since you need to insult me, you obviously loose this one.
Re: Norton Commando vs BMW R90S
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 5:16 am
by ME 109
My timing chain link clip fell off at about 2,000 rpm and shit went all over the place. Can I count that as pushing it? It was well above idle sort of thing.
BMW's blow up when not pushed hard, ime.
They go just great @ 8,000 tho.
Re: Norton Commando vs BMW R90S
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:30 pm
by Major Softie
Zombie Master wrote:Major Softie wrote:Well, you are a hopeless waste of time, but I'll just give you the most painfully obvious one, and then I'm done.
You said "Nortons blow up when pushed hard."
You now have modified it, while claiming you're not, to "they can."
You did not argue with the statement that "BMW's can blow up when pushed hard."
"Nortons blow up when pushed hard" either meant something or it didn't. If it didn't mean they always do, then it means (as you now claim) that they just "can." So can BMW's. So can any bike. So now you're claiming that your sentence meant nothing.
And, that was pretty much what I was saying in the first place.
Well since you need to insult me, you obviously loose this one.
If you think that's an insult, then you probably shouldn't have chosen to immediately prove me right.
Re: Norton Commando vs BMW R90S
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 2:45 pm
by Zombie Master
You're a hopeless pendant:( And wrong.
Re: Norton Commando vs BMW R90S
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:33 pm
by melville
One forgets that Saint Peter of Egan got his start as a professional writer due to a Commando blowing up in Montana, barely halfway from Wisconsin to his destination of the Pacific coast.
In the story he wrote, he relates a MC shop saying before he took the trip, "Yes, you should adjust the valves, check the chain tension, and then trade it in on a BMW."
Re: Norton Commando vs BMW R90S
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:52 pm
by Zombie Master
melville wrote:One forgets that Saint Peter of Egan got his start as a professional writer due to a Commando blowing up in Montana, barely halfway from Wisconsin to his destination of the Pacific coast.
In the story he wrote, he relates a MC shop saying before he took the trip, "Yes, you should adjust the valves, check the chain tension, and then trade it in on a BMW."
They blow up: drop valve, blow gasket etc....it's what they do. Seen it happen so many times on the road.
The 850 engines (don't dare say motors around here
) were better, but then the transmission would fail more often.
Re: Norton Commando vs BMW R90S
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 5:24 pm
by Steve in Golden
Softies a necklace eh? Maybe we should start calling him "Major Wampum".
Re: Norton Commando vs BMW R90S
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:42 pm
by Zombie Master
Steve in Golden wrote:Softies a necklace eh? Maybe we should start calling him "Major Wampum".
Now he's going to get pissed! A pendant would hang from a necklace. It's not a friggin' necklace!
Re: Norton Commando vs BMW R90S
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:10 pm
by Major Softie
Steve in Golden wrote:Softies a necklace eh? Maybe we should start calling him "Major Wampum".
ZM still seems to have missed your point. I'd point out that his attempted insult is suffering from a spelling fail, and that if he were right that would mean I was right where he says I'm wrong, but such concern for getting details correct might make him think me a pedant. I'll just rest happy with my assessment of the waste of time and stop wasting mine.
Re: Norton Commando vs BMW R90S
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 1:11 am
by jagarra
Not sure about the blowing up problem, but I can attest to the quality issues. The lobe that opened the points wore the center out of the mechanical advance so fast that I could rock it side to side and open both points, One rod cap developed a crack. the steel insert on the alternator rotor separated from the aluminum body. The primary cover leaked through a porous casting flaw. Finally sold it when it started blowing all the fuses mysteriously. That was over the 5 years I owned it, under 10K miles. I am sure I forget some others. Bought a Z1 and put more miles on it in one year that I did on the Norton in five.