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Re: Another Newbie Question - Sidestand Auto Retract!

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:22 pm
by ME 109
Chuey wrote:1. I think the Lobster Back must be the cowling behind the rear of the seat. It is different than any I've seen.
Lobster back ;)

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Re: Another Newbie Question - Sidestand Auto Retract!

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:03 am
by montmil
Kinda late to this thread, however I just completed adjusting my 1978 R100S sidestand to where it will remain in the down position.

This link offers the how-to info: Duane Ausherman mentions that BMW altered the sidestand function in 1972 to counter a lawsuit. http://w6rec.com/duane/bmw/sidestand.htm

The excrement in my punchbowl was the spring attach tab had a bend forming a tab that prevented me from rotating the attach bracket. A long draft and careful love from a ball peen hammer fixed that. I'm not particularly altitude-challenged with a 32-33 inseam but the location and self-retract sidestand was formerly a bother.

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The yellow arrow points out the "modified" spring attach bracket. It has been bent -using a long drift and hammer- away from its normal position; that being snug against the chassis and preventing the fix. After moving it and loosening the 19mm motor mount nut, the bracket self-positioned itself when the sidestand was swung down. Don't forget to tighten up that big nut.

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Another view. I'm pleased with the result plus my opinion of lawyers continues to be reinforced.

Re: Another Newbie Question - Sidestand Auto Retract!

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 2:10 pm
by Jean
Wonder how many OTHER bikes have been ridden off with the sidestand deployed?
THEY still stay down...on my little Yamaha, if you put it in gear with the sidestand down, the engine stops. That's how they did "it".

Re: Another Newbie Question - Sidestand Auto Retract!

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 2:46 pm
by Steve in Golden
Jean wrote:...on my little Yamaha, if you put it in gear with the sidestand down, the engine stops.
Which is great, until the sidestand kill switch fails and the engine won't stay running.

Re: Another Newbie Question - Sidestand Auto Retract!

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:20 pm
by Norm T R100T R1150RT
Stalled my old Harley at a light - just as the light went green - kick started her, and, with the stand down, approaching a quick left just the other side of the road, promptly jumped the curb and laid her down. Not enough damage or blood to be overly concerned, I cranked her back up and on into the topless bar parkin lot. ( topless dancers that is, the bar did have a roof )

Re: Another Newbie Question - Sidestand Auto Retract!

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:34 am
by Duane Ausherman
Montmill, was my article clear, or more confusing than it should be? I haven't read it in years and have had no feedback at all. Maybe because nobody else has read it either:-)

Re: Another Newbie Question - Sidestand Auto Retract!

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:09 am
by Chuey
For me, it would be fine to have the "auto-retract" feature. The difficulty I have is that the stand is too far forward. I can't actually get the stand deployed all the way when I'm sitting on the bike. I did criticize the upward reaching prong solution but it actually addresses that issue, although at the expense of uncluttered design.

I had a 1997 Moto Guzzi 1100Sport and that bike had a very nice and hearty stand.

Chuey

Re: Another Newbie Question - Sidestand Auto Retract!

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:38 pm
by montmil
Duane Ausherman wrote:Montmill, was my article clear, or more confusing than it should be? I haven't read it in years and have had no feedback at all. Maybe because nobody else has read it either:-)
Duane, Your How-To was simple and to the point. Easy Squeezy to follow. Consider this positive feedback.

I know of at least two people that have read your article: Mike Crenshaw -my Airhead friend, fellow trouble maker and cook at this year's Big Cedar Rally, and me myownself. :)

You're welcome to the photos if you'd care to include them plus the note about the need to slightly mod the bracket. The BMW-modified sidestand attach bracket with the "anti-rotation" tweak was a very minor issue to overcome.

There are a number of folks on the R65 forum that find help on your pages.http://www.bmwr65.org/

Monte Miller
Denton, Texas

Re: Another Newbie Question - Sidestand Auto Retract!

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:03 pm
by melville
Am I the only one who gets off the bike before deploying any stands?

Re: Another Newbie Question - Sidestand Auto Retract!

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:45 pm
by SteveD
melville wrote:Am I the only one who gets off the bike before deploying any stands?
I usually do that.
However, when the bike is fully loaded, it's imperative to use the sidestand first 'cause you can't get your leg over the gear on the seat and hold the bike up safely.