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newby
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 3:59 pm
by billy192
hi everyone,
just bought a 1980 R80/7. i am sure i will have loads of questions. first one can i get keys made for the old ignition?
Billy
Re: newby
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:39 pm
by jackonz
Yes you can just take a key that fits if you have one to a locksmith and they should be able to make a copy, I did the same for my 1978 R80/7.
Re: newby
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 5:32 am
by Rob Frankham
The 'correct' Nieman blanks can still be obtained from BMW specialists, you'll be very lucky to find them in a high street key cutters shop. There are a number of other blanks that will fit.
Many High Street key cutters will not touch the Nieman blanks because they are steel and some of the cutting machinery won't cope with them. Also some are resistant to cutting blanks from thay have not supplied themselves.
The age specific folding keys are no longer available. There are later folding key blanks that will do the job but don't look quite right (if that's important to you). Many key cutters won't do folding keys because they won't fit in the cutting machines.
The best bet is to find a good locksmith (unlikely to be a high street key cutter) take the key to him, ask him if he can duplicate it. Tell him you can get 'proper' blanks if he thinks it's a good idea. Any good locksmith will be able to supply a key that fits.
The alternative is to cut a key yourself. With a set of warding files and a bit of patience it is quite easy to duplicate the profile of the key.
Rob
Re: newby
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 6:19 am
by Kurt in S.A.
Hmmm...sounds like he doesn't have any keys at all??
Kurt
Re: newby
Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 5:03 am
by Rob Frankham
Could be... in which case, it's a question of whether he has the key code... If so, a key can be cut. If not, it's a matter of taking the complete lock (ignition lock for preference) to a locksmith who will be able to work out the ward sequence and cut a key. The alternative is to buy a complete set of locks.
This webpage might be of interest and assistance...
https://w6rec.com/bmw-motorcycle-fork-a ... eiman-keys
Rob
Re: newby
Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 2:03 pm
by billy192
sorry perhaps not posted the question correctly. No i have no keys. the last 2 days i have stripped the bike down to the frame and lump. so i have the seat lock and the ignition lock off, so i could send to a locksmith. where do you get thigs like cables like throttle, choke clutch ?
thanks
Billy
Re: newby
Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 3:02 pm
by Kurt in S.A.
Where are you located?
Kurt
Re: newby
Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 3:31 pm
by Jeff in W.C.
billy192 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2024 2:03 pm
sorry perhaps not posted the question correctly. No i have no keys. the last 2 days i have stripped the bike down to the frame and lump. so i have the seat lock and the ignition lock off, so i could send to a locksmith. where do you get thigs like cables like throttle, choke clutch ?
thanks
Billy
I'm not going to list all the parts places online. The following list is just some and there are others. You can get many parts from your local BMW dealer. While more and more parts are becoming NLA, there are some aftermarket parts available outside of the dealership channel.
For Parts Fiche, my two favorites are
Max BMW
https://shop.maxbmw.com/fiche/partsfiche.aspx
RealOEM
https://www.realoem.com/bmw/select.do?P ... d=M&arch=0
For Parts, I've had good experiences with
Euro Motoelectrics (in the USA)
https://www.euromotoelectrics.com/
Motobins (in the UK)
https://www.motobins.co.uk/
FYI, both Euro Motoelectrics and Motobins sell key blanks if you need them.
Re: newby
Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2024 4:12 am
by SteveD
Kurt in S.A. wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2024 3:02 pm
Where are you located?
billy, you can add your location via your profile so it appears at the right side of the post. It does help others when they're trying to answer some questions.
There are many parts places. I like www.motorworks.co.uk and I'm in Oz.
Re: newby
Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2024 6:37 am
by Rob Frankham
SteveD wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2024 4:12 am
Kurt in S.A. wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2024 3:02 pm
Where are you located?
billy, you can add your location via your profile so it appears at the right side of the post. It does help others when they're trying to answer some questions.
There are many parts places. I like www.motorworks.co.uk and I'm in Oz.
+1...
Since this is (by chance or design) very much and international forum, location can be very important when giving advice especially in the matters of supplies and the differences between EU and US spec machines. I myself am in the UK (Scotland) so many of my suppliers are of little use to anyone in the US and I am most familiar with EU spec bikes.
Rob