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Frame Engine Mount Weld Failure!

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:01 pm
by Deleted User 61
These pictures were posted on the R65 forum. I thought it warranted spreading the word. There could be 1 or 2 other frames out there like this!

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He is pretty sure it has been like this as long as he has owned the bike. He spotted it while performing his 3rd oil change.

It should be a much better handling bike once fixed!

Re: Heads Up!

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:26 pm
by Kurt in S.A.
Hmmm...and I thought this thread was about heads? Makes it kind of hard to search for something in the future... Just sayin!

Kurt in S.A.

Re: Frame Engine Mount Weld Failure!

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:30 pm
by Deleted User 61
Kurt in S.A. wrote:Hmmm...and I thought this thread was about heads? Makes it kind of hard to search for something in the future... Just sayin!

Kurt in S.A.
better?

and I really hate the phrase "just sayin'".

Re: Frame Engine Mount Weld Failure!

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:19 pm
by Kurt in S.A.
Wow! Thanks...I like it when the subject matches and I don't have to guess. How 'bout "my two centavos"?

Kurt in S.A.

Re: Frame Engine Mount Weld Failure!

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:27 pm
by Deleted User 61
Kurt in S.A. wrote: How 'bout "my two centavos"?
Kurt in S.A.
That one doesn't bother me nearly as much (not at all, actually).

I found out why that phrase grates on my nerves so, when I saw a clip someone posted of a FOX "news" program, and one of the broadcasters used it in their "banter".

Or maybe I'm just getting old. Probably should start pulling my pants up...

Re: Frame Engine Mount Weld Failure!

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:45 pm
by robtg
That was a really bad weld from the factory. Not enough heat and missed the target.
The weld was laid on top like it was squeezed from a tube of toothpaste.

Re: Frame Engine Mount Weld Failure!

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:59 pm
by Deleted User 61
robtg wrote:That was a really bad weld from the factory. Not enough heat and missed the target.
The weld was laid on top like it was squeezed from a tube of toothpaste.
Friday afternoon/Monday morning?

Re: Frame Engine Mount Weld Failure!

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:40 am
by Ken in Oklahoma
R65 Rob wrote:Friday afternoon/Monday morning?

Neither one. It was the Heidi effect.

Heidi effect:
Peripheral effect which occurs when Heidi, the quality manager's appealing secretary, strides purposefully across the factory floor to summon one of the supervisors to an emergency meeting about a quality problem of which her boss has suddenly become aware.



Ken

Re: Frame Engine Mount Weld Failure!

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:51 am
by Chuey
Or maybe the Hans effect.

Wolfgang the welder can's keep his Hans off Heidi.

Chuey

PS I'd get that bad boy back into place and braze it into position!

Engine Mount Weld Failure. Maybe not Hans' fault ?

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:15 am
by vanzen
Could it be possible that an owner of this bike
neglected to maintain proper torque of the engine mount fastener
i.e. it was loose, possibly for some length of time, and the resulting vibration / stress ...
might be the source of the cracking / weld failure ?

I have witnessed similar results of continued vibration / stress.