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settle a dispute
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:54 pm
by twist
I have a running dispute with a riding friend. We both use the home made manometer to balance carbs. I have been adamant that both tubes connecting to the carb vacuum ports need to be the same length. My friend has his set up so one tube is longer than the other as he hangs the device to one side of the bike while tuning. Shortest tube goes to the side closest to the meter. I am under the belief that the tubes need to be the same to get an accurate reading. Who is right?
Re: settle a dispute
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:54 pm
by blitz
Length doesn't matter (here).
If you suck on a straw, the height of the fluid above the reservoir only depends on the vacuum you draw. Same principle applies.
Re: settle a dispute
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:28 pm
by Garnet
Mine has two different lengths.
Maybe that's why my bike runs like crap.

Re: settle a dispute
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:59 pm
by Major Softie
Sorry, my friend, your friend is right.
Re: settle a dispute
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:05 am
by twist
damn! Good job I didn't put any money on it!
Re: settle a dispute
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:03 am
by Kurt in S.A.
What if the difference in length was huge, like one was only 12 inches long and the other was 12 miles long? Practically, seems like there would be a difference. One takes quite a bit more to create the same level of vacuum given the greater volume to evacuate. However, maybe the difference between one 36 inches and another 40 inches might be immeasurable.
Kurt in S.A.
Re: settle a dispute
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:51 am
by BMWARCHER
Switch the tubing and see if you can tell the difference.

Re: settle a dispute
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:35 pm
by Major Softie
Kurt in S.A. wrote:What if the difference in length was huge, like one was only 12 inches long and the other was 12 miles long? Practically, seems like there would be a difference. One takes quite a bit more to create the same level of vacuum given the greater volume to evacuate. However, maybe the difference between one 36 inches and another 40 inches might be immeasurable.
Kurt in S.A.
I don't
believe there would even be a difference in the 12" vs. 12 mile example, as far as where it would end up, but there would be a huge time lag in how long it took to stabilize.
Re: settle a dispute
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:48 pm
by r90s
Oh, there is a difference, all right.
You are pulling a vacuum on different quantities of air (inside the tubing). This is why you should calibrate the scales by interconnecting the sending tubing, then placing them under a shared vacuum and adjusting the scales to match each other.
Now change the vacuum through the range of the scales and note any difference at each end of their range.
You will see that a difference in the tubing length has a corresponding effect on the scale reading. Keep your sending tube lengths as even as possible.
Cheers,
Jon-Lars
Beverly, WA
Re: settle a dispute
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:33 pm
by George Ryals
Since there is basically no air flow, there will be no additional pressure drop on the long side. Each side will almost instantly be at the pressure level of the intake tract that it is connected to.