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Beveled shim question
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:06 am
by Zombie Master
A good buddy noticed that my Browns side stand is very close to my muffler. Good shit that Steve is, he stops by with a shim he machined with a bevel, that he feels, if installed in the correct position will give the stand more clearance.
So there would be the nut square against the flat stand mounting plate, then the bevel side of the shim, then the flat side of the shim against the frame.
Could this cause a problem when torqued ?

Re: Beveled shim question
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:15 am
by gspd
Sounds like you'll have to alter the hole in the bracket to close the gap if you have a beveled spacer.
Post a pic.
Re: Beveled shim question
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:41 pm
by Zombie Master
gspd wrote:Sounds like you'll have to alter the hole in the bracket to close the gap if you have a beveled spacer.
Post a pic.
So starting from the outside you can seed the nut a washer the stand then the shim stack against the from boss. I would replace the shim stack with the beveled shim. Since the Browns side stand only mount to the frame at one point The stand mounting bar would then be angled so the stand would give more clearance from the muffler. My question is about off axis stress caused by tightening against the beveled shim.

Re: Beveled shim question
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:25 pm
by George Ryals
Another shim under the nut and rotated opposite the shim between the stand and frame will straighten out the system so that tightening the nut will not bend the bolt. In other words the flat sides of the two shims will be parallel to each other and perpendicular to the engine moung bolt.
Re: Beveled shim question
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:32 pm
by Zombie Master
George Ryals wrote:Another shim under the nut and rotated opposite the shim between the stand and frame will straighten out the system so that tightening the nut will not bend the bolt. In other words the flat sides of the two shims will be parallel to each other and perpendicular to the engine moung bolt.
What I'm trying to accomplish is the stand attachment being angled to get more clearance, when the stand is retracted near the muffler.
Re: Beveled shim question
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:36 pm
by gspd
Look at it this way,
the outside of the frame and the inside of the nut are parallel with the stand surfaces,
everything fits square and tight.
If you put a bevel washer on the inside, you have to put an equal but opposite one on the outside.
And that's providing the hole in the stand is loose enough on the threads to tilt without wrecking them.
you might have to back off the other side so you have enough threaded rod sticking out on the stand side

Re: Beveled shim question
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 11:37 pm
by Zombie Master
gspd wrote:Look at it this way,
the outside of the frame and the inside of the nut are parallel with the stand surfaces,
everything fits square and tight.
If you put a bevel washer on the inside, you have to put an equal but opposite one on the outside.
And that's providing the hole in the stand is loose enough on the threads to tilt without wrecking them.
you might have to back off the other side so you have enough threaded rod sticking out on the stand side

Now I understand! That makes sense. Thank you!

Re: Beveled shim question
Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 5:39 pm
by Major Softie
That was great, gspd. I was thinking the same thing but didn't even respond because I couldn't figure out how to put it into words. Your pictures communicate it perfectly.
Re: Beveled shim question
Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:07 pm
by moore84rs
Major Softie wrote:That was great, gspd. I was thinking the same thing but didn't even respond because I couldn't figure out how to put it into words. Your pictures communicate it perfectly.
+1
GSPD you are a great asset to this forum. Your posts are always well thought out, clearly explained and
backed up by your wealth of experience. We are all lucky to have you around.
Re: Beveled shim question
Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 7:09 pm
by 00weel
gspd,
Excellent Post!