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Front Brake Hose Clip?

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:23 am
by sterob
Just finishing fitting twin discs to my 77 R100/7 with crash bars and notice that the brake hoses are quite close to the ends of the crash bars. Its seems there is a possibility of one of them catching on the crash bars at some time.
I assume I should have a hose clip fitted to both hoses to hold them clear of the crash bars.
Presently there is no support between the fork leg and the frame mounted spliter...
What are the preferred parts to use?
I think, originally, a grommet was supported by a wire clip off the mudguard mounting bolt. ( that wire is manky and I only have one presently...)
Is there something that mounts to the crash bars themselves and looks a little more pleasing to the eye.

Have looked through Real OEM fo the R90S, R100RS etc but can't even see the wire clip.
Have also looked on Motobins, Motoworks and Munichs websites.

I see clips stamped from plate but they seem to mount to the later fork legs themselves. I already have the proper U shaped bracket on each fork leg.

Steve

Re: Front Brake Hose Clip?

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:43 am
by SteveD
pn 46 71 1 236 606 BRACKET
pn 34 32 1 233 159 GROMMET

Try them in
http://realoem.com/bmw/select.do?kind=M&arch=0

http://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?mod ... fg=70&hl=2

Re: Front Brake Hose Clip?

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:49 am
by sterob
Thanks Steve.
So the only option is to fit these to the mud guard mounting bolts?

Re: Front Brake Hose Clip?

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:24 am
by SteveD
Do they attach at the crash bars?

Re: Front Brake Hose Clip?

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:21 am
by Deleted User 287
SteveD wrote:Do they attach at the crash bars?
I don't think I would want my brake hoses fastened to the crash bars or any other part of the frame behind the steering head.
Your hoses would have to be grossly over-long to manage the lock-to-lock, I would think.

I would buy a couple of those wire stand-offs and find a way to fasten them to your forks.

On my R65 it had the flat stamped metal one you described. When I replaced my hose, I would have prefered the wire stay over the flat metal. I had to cut my rubber doughnut to reuse on the new hose, and it never was really secure after that.

Re: Front Brake Hose Clip?

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:25 am
by SteveD
I think the wire clips that guide the brake hoses might attach to the medial fixing point on the downtube.

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Re: Front Brake Hose Clip?

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:53 am
by moosehead
On my old 77 S with twin ATE calipers, the 2 brake lines from the MC ran through 2 "P" clips and rubber grommets . These clips were mounted to the inboard side of the frame down tubes with the nut and bolt of the horn mounts.

Can get them at Motobins.com...this is P clip...just wrap around grommet and use horn mount bolt to mount (inside down tube - engine side)...they're listed under Brake Parts Hoses ...just use their part number

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And rubber grommet...its split so can slide brake hose in

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My old 77...not very good pic of mounting. It also had cylinder guards mounted later (although not in this pic) and had no binding or catching the brake hoses...the P clips kept the hoses in board of the cylinder guard mounts on down tubes

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Re: Front Brake Hose Clip?

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:54 am
by moosehead
Oops, sorry for double post...how do you use edit to delete entirely?

Re: Front Brake Hose Clip?

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:55 am
by moosehead
On my old 77 S with twin ATE calipers, the 2 brake lines from the MC ran through 2 "P" clips and rubber grommets . These clips were mounted to the inboard side of the frame down tubes with the nut and bolt of the horn mounts.

Can get them at Motobins.com...this is P clip...just wrap around grommet and use horn mount bolt to mount (inside down tube - engine side)...they're listed under Brake Parts Hoses ...just use their part number

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And rubber grommet...its split so can slide brake hose in

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My old 77...not very good pic of mounting. It also had cylinder guards mounted later (although not in this pic) and had no binding or catching the brake hoses...the P clips kept the hoses in board of the cylinder guard mounts on down tubes

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Re: Front Brake Hose Clip?

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:25 am
by Ken in Oklahoma
SteveD wrote:I think the wire clips that guide the brake hoses might attach to the medial fixing point on the downtube.

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Referring to the pic above:

I don't think anybody has mentioned it yet, but there is also a sort of guide where the metal hose from the caliper connects with the rubber hose. There is a round hole in a bracket at the rear fender mounting point. That hole has a rubber grommet which "guides" the juncture.

Of every swinging ATE caliper'ed airhead I have, none of the guides seem to function as designed/intended. The rubber grommet simply won't stay in place on that fork leg bracket. Admittedly I haven't really addressed the problem. I'm thinking that the rubber grommet could be glued into place, perhaps with some clear epoxy. IIRC on at least one occasion I have split lengthwise about 1" of appropriately sized fuel line to form a home made guide. A couple of small black zip ties worked pretty well in keeping my kluge in place.


Ken