1 more disc
5 longer bolts to hold the disk on
1 right side lower fork leg designed for a caliper (or you can make one from a cheap left side leg like I did...but that's another story)
1 caliper (right and left are the same in ATE, you just have to switch the bleeder and pipe).
1 right side pipe and mount ( or bend one yourself to mirror the left side one)
1 more brake hose. (replace both hoses with aftermarket stainless ones. They're cheaper and better.)
1 dual hose master cylinder (or machine a single one for two hoses...or use a T in the hose to accommodate the other hose).
Most of the expensive stuff can be gotten at a fair to cheap price on eBay.
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1975 BMW R90/6
1975 BMW 2002
1971 VW Westfalia
1985 VW Vanagon
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1975 BMW R90/6
1975 BMW 2002
1971 VW Westfalia
1985 VW Vanagon
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As I read through the posts, I agree with what Max Headroom wrote. He hits the nail on the head. My first BMW, which is now essentially, a different bike, was a 1974 R90/6. It had the smaller flywheel bolts, the smaller spigots, the wonky transmission, the 14mm axle and the switch gear complained about here. I never had one problem due to any of those things. I did change to a dual disc ATE system that I find barely acceptable. The dual disc front end has the 17mm axle.
When I got my bike, it was my only motorcycle. I had owned some Japanese bikes before it, but had not ridden for several years. The turn signal switch is fine. I can't believe that anybody would be all that bothered by it. And, I do find the way you turn the switch to be logical. You flip it up for a left turn, the same direction you would turn a car steering wheel, and down for right. The one and only way it is a problem is if you have multiple bikes and your mind doesn't switch back and forth easily.
My R90/6 was an eager and willing companion. It eventually morphed into the R90S that I have. I agree with Ken Whitehawk's comment that they are soulful bikes.
Chuey
Edit: I forgot to say that if you are not concerned with keeping the fork/brakes looking stock, I think you can use a later model fork. I bought a complete one for less than $200.00.
When I got my bike, it was my only motorcycle. I had owned some Japanese bikes before it, but had not ridden for several years. The turn signal switch is fine. I can't believe that anybody would be all that bothered by it. And, I do find the way you turn the switch to be logical. You flip it up for a left turn, the same direction you would turn a car steering wheel, and down for right. The one and only way it is a problem is if you have multiple bikes and your mind doesn't switch back and forth easily.
My R90/6 was an eager and willing companion. It eventually morphed into the R90S that I have. I agree with Ken Whitehawk's comment that they are soulful bikes.
Chuey
Edit: I forgot to say that if you are not concerned with keeping the fork/brakes looking stock, I think you can use a later model fork. I bought a complete one for less than $200.00.
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I disagree. Properly adjusted the ATE dual brake is more than enough. You won't do front wheel stands, but after riding a single for almost 18 years, the dual feels like it will put you over the handlebars when you come to an emergency stop.Chuey wrote:I did change to a dual disc ATE system that I find barely acceptable.
The only down side I have experienced is that the number of deer crossing my path has grown substantially since I made the conversion.
Bellingham, WA USA
1975 BMW R90/6
1975 BMW 2002
1971 VW Westfalia
1985 VW Vanagon
http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/b ... s.1074183/
1975 BMW R90/6
1975 BMW 2002
1971 VW Westfalia
1985 VW Vanagon
http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/b ... s.1074183/
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Yeah, we've had this discussion before. All I can say is: anyone who believes that a dual ATE brake is "more than enough" is not anyone I want designing my motorcycle brakes.mattcfish wrote:Properly adjusted the ATE dual brake is more than enough. You won't do front wheel stands, but after riding a single for almost 18 years, the dual feels like it will put you over the handlebars when you come to an emergency stop.
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+1 to Major Softie
Where I live in the south of England, the roads are fairly narrow and the traffic is heavy. On my R90/6 single ATE disc braked bike, I went through all the standard "upgrades", 2nd disc, cast iron rotors etc. but still found the brakes insufficient, even dangerous. When I switched to a Brembo front end, it was a night and day difference. It totally changed my riding experience.
Moto Guzzi and Ducati had Brembos in '74: BMW should have specified them.
Sam
Where I live in the south of England, the roads are fairly narrow and the traffic is heavy. On my R90/6 single ATE disc braked bike, I went through all the standard "upgrades", 2nd disc, cast iron rotors etc. but still found the brakes insufficient, even dangerous. When I switched to a Brembo front end, it was a night and day difference. It totally changed my riding experience.
Moto Guzzi and Ducati had Brembos in '74: BMW should have specified them.
Sam
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I would take the time to set up the caliper and get full pad contact with the disc. Seemed a better brake than the drums to me. I wonder if I had found a better performing pad. Long time ago.Duane Ausherman wrote:Zombie Master wrote:The single disc brake on the 74 seemed a big improvement over the old drums. quote]
ZM, you are about the last person on earth who thinks that the 74 disc was better than the drum on the /5. Even the BMW literature showed it stopped in a longer distance.
Rolling backwards the disc was better.
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At the risk of a thread hijack (as well as dredging a topic previously well-covered elsewhere), the design fault of the twin Ate caliper setup is the m/c, due its diameter being too big to give a reasonable ratio IMHO. Changing the m/c for a smaller diameter item, or better still, moving to a later handlebar m/c improves the Ate brakes exponentially. My twin 40mm Ate front end with 13mm handlebar m/c is more than capable of locking the front wheel without effort, while most of my braking requires only two fingers at the lever.
Ate: the first radial calipers!
Ate: the first radial calipers!
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[quote="Chuey"]The turn signal switch is fine. I can't believe that anybody would be all that bothered by it. And, I do find the way you turn the switch to be logical. You flip it up for a left turn, the same direction you would turn a car steering wheel, and down for right. The one and only way it is a problem is if you have multiple bikes and your mind doesn't switch back and forth easily.[quote]
Chuey, by year ('74) and your description you don't have the switches people find illogical. That was changed in '75.
Chuey, by year ('74) and your description you don't have the switches people find illogical. That was changed in '75.
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IIRC. the /5 style switchgear fitted to the 1974 /6 model used the same up/down setup as the later /6 & /7 switchgear. I agree with Chuey, I've never had an issue with the system.pkboxer wrote: Chuey, by year ('74) and your description you don't have the switches people find illogical. That was changed in '75.
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[quote="Duane Ausherman"][quote="Zombie Master"]The single disc brake on the 74 seemed a big improvement over the old drums. quote]
ZM, you are about the last person on earth who thinks that the 74 disc was better than the drum on the /5. Even the BMW literature showed it stopped in a longer distance.
Worked better for me. Maybe I just figured out how to set it up. Maybe it was the stainless brake line.
ZM, you are about the last person on earth who thinks that the 74 disc was better than the drum on the /5. Even the BMW literature showed it stopped in a longer distance.
Worked better for me. Maybe I just figured out how to set it up. Maybe it was the stainless brake line.
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